Legislature(2023 - 2024)ADAMS 519

04/12/2023 01:30 PM House FINANCE

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HOUSE BILL NO. 59                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     "An  Act relating  to  Medicaid eligibility;  expanding                                                                    
     eligibility  for postpartum  mothers; conditioning  the                                                                    
     expansion  of eligibility  on  approval  by the  United                                                                    
     States  Department of  Health and  Human Services;  and                                                                    
     providing for an effective date."                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
2:09:32 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
EMILY  RICCI,  DEPUTY  COMMISSIONER, DEPARTMENT  OF  HEALTH,                                                                    
introduced  herself and  appreciated  the committee  hearing                                                                    
the bill.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
DR. ANNE  ZINK, CHIEF MEDICAL OFFICER,  DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH                                                                    
(via  teleconference),  introduced  herself and  provided  a                                                                    
PowerPoint presentation  titled "State of  Alaska Department                                                                    
of  Health: HB  59:  Postpartum  Medicaid Extension,"  dated                                                                    
April 4,  2023 (copy on file).  She began on slide  3 titled                                                                    
 What is Postpartum Medicaid Extension?                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
     HB  59 extends  postpartum  Medicaid  coverage for  new                                                                    
     mothers from 60 days to  12 months as postpartum health                                                                    
     issues occur far beyond 60 days.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
     HB  59  supports  growing  families  and  will  improve                                                                    
     Alaskan maternal  and child  health, setting  the stage                                                                    
     for a healthier future.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
     Simplified   Medicaid    pregnancy   coverage   reduces                                                                    
     bureaucracy and stress to a young families' life.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     Saves  health  care dollars  in  the  long run  because                                                                    
     early interventions have the  best return on investment                                                                    
     and focuses on prevention.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
2:12:13 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Dr. Zink  elaborated that the coverage  period was increased                                                                    
through   the   American   Rescue  Plan   Act   (ARPA)   and                                                                    
subsequently the  12 month extension  was offered  to states                                                                    
that chose to  continue with the program. She  noted that 10                                                                    
states had completely implemented  the program and 31 states                                                                    
plus  the  District  of Columbia  had  begun  the  extension                                                                    
process.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
2:12:40 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Dr.  Zink turned  to slides  4 and  5 titled  "What are  the                                                                    
Stakes?" She  informed the committee that  the United States                                                                    
(US)  was   the  only   developed  country   where  maternal                                                                    
mortality  rates  were worsening.  She  pointed  to the  bar                                                                    
chart  on slide  4 that  depicted Maternal  Mortality Ratios                                                                    
per 100,000  live births in  selected countries  that showed                                                                    
the US rated significantly  higher than other countries. She                                                                    
highlighted slide 5:                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     What Are the Stakes?                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
      Pregnancy-related deaths occur well beyond the                                                                          
          60-day postpartum period.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
          29% of pregnancy-related deaths in the U.S. not                                                                     
          including those caused by accidents, homicides,                                                                     
       and suicides occur 43 to 365 days postpartum.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
          For every pregnancy-related death, there are 70                                                                     
          to 80 cases of severe maternal illness and                                                                          
          morbidity in the postpartum period.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
          Medicaid-enrolled women are especially vulnerable                                                                   
          to pregnancy-related death as they are more                                                                           
          likely to experience chronic conditions, pre-term                                                                     
          or low-weight births, and severe maternal                                                                             
          morbidity.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
2:13:38 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Dr. Zink  elucidated that postpartum could  not be diagnosed                                                                    
for  at least  6-weeks after  birth. She  addressed slide  6                                                                    
titled "Pregnancy-Associated Deaths in Alaska:"                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
     In 2021, Alaska's overall pregnancy-associated death                                                                       
     rate exceeded the previous 5-year average by 109                                                                           
     percent.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
     Among deaths in 2015-2019: 73% occurred >6 weeks post-                                                                     
     delivery.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
     Among deaths  reviewed by  Alaska's Maternal  and Child                                                                    
     Death  Review (MCDR)  committee  during 2016-2022,  88%                                                                    
     were  potentially preventable,  and 44%were  associated                                                                    
     with barriers to health care access.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Dr. Zink pointed  to the bar graph on the  left of the slide                                                                    
and  furthered   that  there  was  a   significantly  faster                                                                    
increase  in morbidity  and mortality  rates in  rural areas                                                                    
(233  deaths  per 100,000  live  births)  compared to  urban                                                                    
areas (110 deaths per 100,000 live births).                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Ricci addressed  slide  7 titled   What  Can Alaska  Do                                                                    
About It?                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
     Section  9812 of  the American  Rescue Plan  Act (ARPA)                                                                    
     added the  time-limited option  for allowing  states to                                                                    
     extend postpartum  coverage from  the required  60 days                                                                    
     to 12  months for eligible beneficiaries  through March                                                                    
     1, 2027.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
     The Consolidated Appropriations  Act of 2023 (CAA-2023)                                                                    
     revised ARPA  to make  the optional  coverage extension                                                                    
     permanent.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Ricci  discussed that typically  there was  nothing easy                                                                    
or  simple  about  the  Medicaid  program  or  about  making                                                                    
changes  to the  program.  However,  the federal  government                                                                    
devised the  easiest method to  allow states  to participate                                                                    
in  this type  of extension,  which was  a new  approach for                                                                    
Medicaid. Ms. Ricci turned to slide 8 titled "Why a Bill?"                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     The Legislature  must approve  all optional  groups for                                                                    
     Medicaid coverage in statute AS 47.07.020.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
     Women who are eligible for  Medicaid in Alaska based on                                                                    
     their pregnancy currently only  receive coverage for 60                                                                    
     days postpartum.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
     In Alaska, 51% of births are covered by Medicaid.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Ricci indicated that at  51 percent of Medicaid coverage                                                                    
for  births it  was critically  important to  scrutinize the                                                                    
states postpartum coverage.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
2:16:27 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Dr. Zink turned to slide 9 titled Benefits to Alaskans:                                                                         
     Improves maternal health outcomes:                                                                                       
     Prevents gaps in health care coverage and improves                                                                       
     health care access.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     Improves maternal mental health:                                                                                         
     Mental health conditions contributed to 31% of                                                                           
     pregnancy-associated deaths in Alaska between 2014 and                                                                   
     2018.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
     14% of Alaskan mothers who had a baby in 2020 had                                                                        
     symptoms of postpartum depression.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
     Addresses disparities in maternal health outcomes:                                                                       
     Medicaid plays a vital role in addressing disparities                                                                      
     in maternal mortality and morbidity rates.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
     Postpartum period is an especially vulnerable time for                                                                   
     parents recovering from substance use disorders.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
     Extending postpartum coverage increases access to                                                                        
     screening and education about chronic diseases such as                                                                   
     diabetes and high blood pressure.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Dr. Zink provided a real  life example. She recounted that a                                                                    
patient  had  struggled  with severe  depression  and  while                                                                    
pregnant  she was  treated  for  depression and  alcoholism,                                                                    
which  she had  medicated  herself with  but  with help  was                                                                    
doing  well. Subsequently,  she lost  her Medicaid  coverage                                                                    
60-day postpartum. She lost access  to treatment and started                                                                    
to  drink  again  during  that time.  She  appeared  at  the                                                                    
Emergency Room (ER), and they  had been able to reenroll her                                                                    
in the  Medicaid program.  She returned  to the  ER sometime                                                                    
later for  her son and she  was doing well and  not drinking                                                                    
and her son also benefited.  She stated that the benefits to                                                                    
Alaskans were multifactorial.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Dr. Zink moved to slide 10 titled Benefits to Alaskans:                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
     Improves child health outcomes:                                                                                          
     Parental enrollment in Medicaid is associated with a                                                                     
     29% higher probability that a child will receive                                                                         
     an annual well-child visit.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     Maternal mental health matters not only because of                                                                       
     maternal mortality; it is intimately tied to the                                                                         
     health and development of the child.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     Maternal depression can lead to negative outcomes in                                                                     
     children including delayed cognition and social-                                                                         
     emotional/behavioral development.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
2:19:09 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Dr. Zink addressed slide 11titled Cost Savings:                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
     The  Congressional Budget  Office (CBO)  estimates that                                                                    
     by 2024,  about a  quarter of  postpartum beneficiaries                                                                    
     will live in states that  elect the new option and that                                                                    
     extended Medicaid  coverage will result in  almost $6.1                                                                    
     billion in  federal spending over  the first  ten years                                                                  
     and expected to grow over time.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     The CBO estimates  that not only are  their federal and                                                                    
     state cost savings, but this  will decrease ACA subsidy                                                                    
     cost for private insurance.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     Savings   from  averted   severe  maternal   morbidity:                                                                    
     Medicaid-enrolled pregnant  women with  severe maternal                                                                    
     morbidity cost an average  of $10,134 annually compared                                                                    
     to $6,894 for those without.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
     Savings  from prevention:  Preventing gaps  in coverage                                                                    
     ensures   access  to   primary  and   preventive  care,                                                                    
     including   management   of  chronic   conditions   and                                                                    
     screening for mental  health conditions, substance use,                                                                    
     and intimate partner violence.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Dr.  Zink   indicated  that  the  CBO   estimated  how  much                                                                    
potential savings could result  through the extension versus                                                                    
how  much   it  cost.   The  fiscal   notes  did   not  take                                                                    
preventative costs into account  and only estimated the cost                                                                    
of 10 months  of additional coverage. The  slide listed some                                                                    
of the  savings that  were identified.  She noted  that good                                                                    
prenatal and postpartum care decreased  costs in all sectors                                                                    
of healthcare.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
2:20:49 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Dr. Zink discussed slide 12 titled "Mental Health:"                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     Drug/alcohol  use  or   substance  use  disorders  were                                                                    
     documented  in  72%   of  Alaskan  pregnancy-associated                                                                    
     deaths  reviewed by  the  MCDR  Committee during  2016-                                                                    
     2022.                                                                                                                      
     Increasing  access  to   screening  and  treatment  for                                                                    
     substance  misuse  during  and after  a  pregnancy  may                                                                    
     reduce costs for the index  child as well as subsequent                                                                    
     pregnancies and births.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
     Alaska Medicaid paid  3.9 times as much  per infant for                                                                  
     those  affected  by  Neonatal  withdrawal  compared  to                                                                    
     nonaffected infants.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Dr. Zink  pointed to the graphics  on top of the  slide that                                                                    
depicted data regarding Perinatal  Mood and Anxiety Disorder                                                                    
(PMAD).  She  indicated that  1  in  7 pregnant  women  were                                                                    
affected by  PMAD and roughly  half of perinatal  women with                                                                    
depression did  not receive  needed treatment.  An estimated                                                                    
$14.2 billion was spent for all births in 2017.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
2:21:37 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Dr. Zink  advanced to  slide 13  titled "Alaska  Supports HB
59."   She  reported   that  the   slide  listed   the  many                                                                    
organizations that supported the  extension. She moved to 15                                                                    
titled Healthy Families Initiative:                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     Strong  families  are  the   foundation  of  a  healthy                                                                    
     society and a vibrant economy.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     4-year statewide  investments in  the health  and well-                                                                    
     being of Alaskan families.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
     Governor  Dunleavy  proposed  $9.5M   (UGF)  in  FY  24                                                                    
     operating  budget   for  Healthy   Families  activities                                                                    
     within DOH:                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
         Postpartum Medicaid extension                                                                                        
         Office of Health Savings                                                                                             
         TB and congenital syphilis mitigation                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
         Healthy Beginnings                                                                                                     
         Health Care Access                                                                                                     
         Healthy Communities                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Dr.  Zink emphasized  that  the extension  was  part of  the                                                                    
governor's  Health  Families  Initiative.  She  communicated                                                                    
that  there were  three strong  pillars  to the  initiative:                                                                    
Healthy   Beginnings,  Health   Care  Access,   and  Healthy                                                                    
Communities.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
2:22:41 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Ricci  provided a  sectional  analysis  (copy on  file)                                                                    
which was also included on slides 17 through 20:                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     Section 1                                                                                                                  
     Adds  a new  section (o)  to AS  47.07.020, authorizing                                                                    
     the department to implement  an extension of postpartum                                                                    
     Medicaid coverage  up to the maximum  period authorized                                                                    
     under federal law.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
     Section 2                                                                                                                  
     Amends the  uncodified law to  add the  requirement for                                                                    
     submission of a Medicaid  state plan amendment to allow                                                                    
     Medicaid beneficiaries  to receive  postpartum coverage                                                                    
     for up to 12 months.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
     Section 3                                                                                                                  
     Amends the uncodified law  to establish the requirement                                                                    
     that the  commissioner of  health notifies  the revisor                                                                    
     of statutes within  30 days of federal  approval of the                                                                    
     state plan amendment.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     Section 4                                                                                                                  
     Establishes that the  postpartum extension takes effect                                                                    
     on  the day  after the  date the  commissioner notifies                                                                    
     the revisor of statutes as described above.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Foster looked  at slide  15  showing the  governor                                                                    
proposed $9.5  million in  Undesignated General  Funds (UGF)                                                                    
in the  FY 24 budget. He  looked at the fiscal  note showing                                                                    
$9  million  made up  of  three  items: Postpartum  Medicaid                                                                    
Extension, Office  of Health Savings, and  Tuberculosis (TB)                                                                    
and  Congenital  Syphilis  Mitigation. He  noted  that  $6.4                                                                    
million  was comprised  of federal  funds. He  asked if  the                                                                    
postpartum  extension actually  cost  $2.6  million and  the                                                                    
remainder of the  $9.5 million was for the  other two items.                                                                    
Ms. Ricci  answered that the  $9.5 million UGF would  be for                                                                    
the three  areas: postpartum extension,  congenital syphilis                                                                    
mitigation, and  the Office of  Health Savings.  She relayed                                                                    
that  the slide  was outdated.  She detailed  that initially                                                                    
the department  hoped to  get the work  done sooner  but the                                                                    
earliest the initiative could take  effect was July 1 of the                                                                    
following year  (2024). The  amount had  been backed  out of                                                                    
the FY 24 budget and would  be included in the FY 25 budget,                                                                    
which  was reflected  in the  fiscal  note, but  not on  the                                                                    
slide.                                                                                                                          
Co-Chair Foster  asked for verification  the UGF  amount was                                                                    
only  for the  postpartum extension  in FY  2025. Ms.  Ricci                                                                    
answered in the affirmative.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
2:26:15 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative Ortiz  cited slide 4 and  found the mortality                                                                    
rates  alarming.  He  wondered  why  the  US  was  the  only                                                                    
developed  country  where   maternal  mortality  rates  were                                                                    
worsening. Dr. Zink agreed that  the data was very alarming.                                                                    
She replied that the reasons  were multifactorial, but a lot                                                                    
of  the   reason  had  to   do  with  early   diagnosis  and                                                                    
prevention, in  connection with  additional systems  of care                                                                    
compounded  with  things  like  drug  abuse,  mental  health                                                                    
issues,  and violence.  She shared  Alaska  data related  to                                                                    
maternal mortality between 2015 and  2019: 7 deaths were due                                                                    
to suicide, 7 from drug  and alcohol overdose, 8 deaths were                                                                    
related to  homicide and assault, 8  were from unintentional                                                                    
injuries,  9 were  pregnancy related  medical causes,  and 9                                                                    
were other natural causes. She  pointed out that there was a                                                                    
disproportionate  share of  injury deaths  versus non-injury                                                                    
deaths. Representative  Ortiz understood  that the  U.S. had                                                                    
one of the  highest infant mortality rates. He  asked if his                                                                    
statement  was   accurate.  Dr.  Zink  stated   it  was  her                                                                    
understanding as well, but she deferred to a colleague.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
2:28:18 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REBEKAH  MORISSE,   ACTING  DIRECTOR,  DIVISION   OF  PUBLIC                                                                    
HEALTH, DEPARTMENT OF  HEALTH (via teleconference), answered                                                                    
in the  affirmative and added  that there were  higher rates                                                                    
of infant mortality and pre-term  birth. In addition, the US                                                                    
had  higher rates  of chronic  disease e.g.,  diabetes's and                                                                    
obesity, which contributed to poor outcomes.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Johnson referenced  slide  4 and  wondered if  the                                                                    
statistics were  consistent across the country  and how they                                                                    
were generated. She  asked if there was  a consistency among                                                                    
mortality.  Dr.  Zink replied  that  Alaska  had a  maternal                                                                    
mortality review committee to  try to understand the causes.                                                                    
She added  that the  reasons were both  physical as  well as                                                                    
mental conditions,  violence, unintentional injury,  as well                                                                    
as  suicide and  homicide, including  pregnancy related  and                                                                    
other medical  causes; all were counted.  She indicated that                                                                    
the committee  broke the  data down on  a yearly  review and                                                                    
noted that drug  and alcohol and substance  use disorder was                                                                    
documented  for  72 percent  of  the  deaths, 71  percent  a                                                                    
history  of   domestic  violence,  44   percent  experienced                                                                    
barriers to health  care access, and 88  percent were deemed                                                                    
to be potentially preventable. She  reiterated that the data                                                                    
was  from  the  Alaska   Maternal  and  Child  Death  Review                                                                    
Committee that  examined the  mortality cases.  She detailed                                                                    
that slide  4 reflected national data  comparing US national                                                                    
statistics  versus  international  statistics based  on  the                                                                    
number of deaths per 100,000.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Morisse did not have anything  else to add to Dr. Zincs                                                                     
answer.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Johnson  looked at slide  6 and asked if  the chart                                                                    
showed the  maternal mortality rate.  Dr. Zink  responded in                                                                    
the affirmative.  Co-Chair Johnson  was trying  to determine                                                                    
whether there  was something hiding  in the  statistics. She                                                                    
noted  the  significant  changes  between  rural  and  urban                                                                    
mortality.  She  asked  if  it  was  because  of  access  to                                                                    
healthcare in rural areas. She  believed that the statistics                                                                    
were  startling.  She asked  for  someone  to speak  to  the                                                                    
statistics. She wanted to determine the causes.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
2:33:39 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Dr.  Zink  replied  that   the  statistics  were  incredibly                                                                    
alarming, which  was one of  the reasons there was  a review                                                                    
committee. She  delineated that part  of the reason  for the                                                                    
legislation,  besides the  logistically simpler  new option,                                                                    
was that  it was a  critical  time  for the state  to extend                                                                    
its postpartum coverage  and it ensured women  had access to                                                                    
healthcare the  entire first year  after birth.  Both mother                                                                    
and child would be covered  for the first year. She affirmed                                                                    
the  disproportionate burden  in rural  Alaska versus  urban                                                                    
Alaska. Physical  and mental health services  were harder to                                                                    
access in  rural Alaska. There  was also  a disproportionate                                                                    
burden   on  races   and  ethnicities,   therefore  maternal                                                                    
mortality was higher for Alaska  Native women. She concluded                                                                    
that  access to  healthcare  was a  major  component to  the                                                                    
issue.  Co-Chair  Johnson  asked  whether  infant  mortality                                                                    
tracked in a similar line  with maternal mortality. Ms. Zink                                                                    
deferred the answer to Ms. Morisse.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Morisse  replied  that  she did  not  have  the  infant                                                                    
mortality  data  on  hand  and  would  follow  up  with  the                                                                    
information.  She was  aware that  the  pre-term and  infant                                                                    
mortality  rates had  risen but  could  not recall  specific                                                                    
data.                                                                                                                           
Representative Stapp  favored the  bill and did  not believe                                                                    
it went  far enough. He cited  AS 07.020 as the  statute the                                                                    
department  was amending.  He  referenced  that the  Federal                                                                    
Poverty  Limit (FPL)  was 175  percent of  the poverty  line                                                                    
adjusted for Alaska. He surmised  that equated to $15.38 per                                                                    
hour wage  for a single  mom. He thought the  numbers should                                                                    
be  higher.  He had  heard  it  already  was higher  and  he                                                                    
wondered how that was possible.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Ricci  responded  that currently  pregnant  women  were                                                                    
eligible at 200  percent of the federal poverty  level.  She                                                                    
explained   that  when   the  175   percent  threshold   was                                                                    
established  in  statute  it   was  prior  to  changes  that                                                                    
occurred  under  the Affordable  Care  Act  (ACA) that  took                                                                    
effect  in  2014.  The  ACA   used  a  different  method  to                                                                    
establish  income called   Modified  Adjusted Gross  Income                                                                     
(MAGI)  and when  translated it  became 200  percent of  the                                                                    
federal   poverty   level   supplanting  the   175   percent                                                                    
designated in state statute.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
2:38:48 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Stapp  asked  whether   Ms.  Ricci  did  not                                                                    
believe  the state  needed  to amend  the  state statute  to                                                                    
conform with  the federal guidelines. Ms.  Ricci answered in                                                                    
the affirmative.  Representative Stapp  asked what  steps it                                                                    
would require  the department taking  if he wanted  to amend                                                                    
the bill to 225 percent of  FPL. Ms. Ricci answered it would                                                                    
require  a state  plan amendment,  regulatory change,  and a                                                                    
CMS  1115  waiver.  She  added  that  other  states  pursued                                                                    
changes to  postpartum coverage outside of  the CMS 12-month                                                                    
extension, which required waivers.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Representative Galvin  wondered about  the magnitude  of the                                                                    
problem.  She  referenced  Dr.   Zink's  statistic  that  88                                                                    
percent  were  deemed  to be  potentially  preventable.  She                                                                    
recounted  that 44  percent of  deaths  was associated  with                                                                    
barriers to  healthcare access. She  was concerned  it would                                                                    
not be implemented in FY  24. She wondered if the department                                                                    
had thought about  a workaround to address some  of the dire                                                                    
concerns  before the  FY 25  implementation date.  Ms. Ricci                                                                    
answered that the department was  looking at how to initiate                                                                    
the change  earlier in 2024.  She was hopeful that  it could                                                                    
be implemented  earlier, but the  state plan  and regulatory                                                                    
processes could  be very time  consuming and  typically took                                                                    
from 6  to 9 months. The  department was ready to  start the                                                                    
regulatory process immediately after passage of the bill.                                                                       
2:42:45 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative   Galvin    understood   that    because   of                                                                    
bureaucratic hurdles they would  be delaying the opportunity                                                                    
for a  pathway to  healthcare access.  She wondered  how the                                                                    
legislature  could  help.  She  referred to  slide  11  that                                                                    
related  to  cost  savings and  pointed  to  preventing  the                                                                    
deaths  and  outcomes  in children  that  were  critical  to                                                                    
mitigate. She  asked the department  to let  the legislature                                                                    
know  if  there  were  ways   it  could  help  overcome  the                                                                    
bureaucratic barriers to helping families.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Representative Hannan cited  the data on slides 4  and 6 and                                                                    
noted there was much more  detail from the one-page document                                                                    
in  the bill  backup titled  "Pregnancy-Associated Mortality                                                                    
in Alaska" (copy  on file). She believed that  the fact that                                                                    
the state  had a review  committee underscored the  need for                                                                    
mitigation efforts. She  applauded the effort to  do as much                                                                    
as possible when  faced with the loss of life  and impact to                                                                    
families.  She recounted  earlier testimony  that 41  states                                                                    
were already taking advantage of  the extension and wondered                                                                    
why  it took  so  long  in Alaska.  Ms.  Ricci replied  that                                                                    
Alaska  valued  legislative input  in  many  aspects of  the                                                                    
Medicaid   program.   However,   it   created   bureaucratic                                                                    
challenges that  resulted in a longer  process. The positive                                                                    
part of the  involvement was engaging with  Alaskans, but it                                                                    
could go  both ways. When  an issue was highly  complex more                                                                    
participation was good but was  challenging when the changes                                                                    
should  be  made quickly.  There  was  a saying  that  every                                                                    
state's   Medicaid  program   was   unique  and   structured                                                                    
differently. She restated that Alaska  had a higher level of                                                                    
involvement  that  was overall  good  for  the program.  She                                                                    
added that the regulatory time  period was one of the longer                                                                    
aspects to  implementing any changes  in Medicaid.  A robust                                                                    
review process  was at times necessary  but challenging when                                                                    
faced with  a non-controversial  issue that  warranted quick                                                                    
action. She  commented that everyone  in the  department was                                                                    
 passionate about  the bill  and  shared a sense  of urgency                                                                    
to make positive changes.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Josephson   referenced  needing  legislative                                                                    
authority to expand an optional  program. He understood that                                                                    
the  governor could  remove  a  program without  legislative                                                                    
approval. He  asked whether  he was  correct. Ms.  Ricci was                                                                    
unsure of the answer.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Representative Josephson referred  to Representative Stapps                                                                     
question  regarding increasing  the FPL  and wondered  why a                                                                    
waiver was necessary. Ms. Ricci  replied that it was because                                                                    
it  was  different than  what  was  offered and  asking  for                                                                    
something  outside of  the  new  streamlined approach  would                                                                    
need a  longer regulatory process and  potentially a waiver.                                                                    
Representative  Josephson  deduced  that there  must  be  an                                                                    
upper limit to qualifying.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
2:50:03 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Ricci  answered that she  was aware of some  states that                                                                    
had a  higher limit for  coverage up  to 300 percent  of the                                                                    
FPL.  She  was uncertain  what  the  process with  CMS  was.                                                                    
Representative  Josephson  favored  the  bill  but  cited  a                                                                    
statistic regarding  intimate partner violence  and wondered                                                                    
how  the bill  would work  regarding prevention.  He guessed                                                                    
that  would be  a  topic  for a  different  bill. Ms.  Ricci                                                                    
replied that one  aspect to consider was  when an individual                                                                    
had  independence  in different  ways,  they  might leave  a                                                                    
violent situation.  She believed that having  heath coverage                                                                    
may  provide that  additional support.  She deferred  to Dr.                                                                    
Zink for additional comments.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Dr.  Zink  replied  that  the bill  was  necessary  but  not                                                                    
sufficient  to address  many  of  the challenges  associated                                                                    
with the postpartum  period. She added that there  was a lot                                                                    
of other work  happening with DOHs  partners  to address the                                                                    
issues. She shared that the  research showed that women with                                                                    
increased  access  to  resources including  healthcare  were                                                                    
less likely  to remain in  an abusive relationship  and more                                                                    
likely to seek help with other issues.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Representative Coulombe  had heard that currently  women had                                                                    
the option  to renew  after 60  days. She  asked if  she was                                                                    
correct.  Ms.   Ricci  answered  in  the   affirmative.  She                                                                    
furthered that  they had  the option  to be  redetermined to                                                                    
find out if  they were eligible for other  types of Medicaid                                                                    
coverage.  The Medicaid  could potentially  continue through                                                                    
other categories  such as parents with  children or Medicaid                                                                    
expansion,  depending on  the circumstances  but not  on the                                                                    
postpartum  care  program.  However,   some  women  may  not                                                                    
qualify at  all. She  offered that  even aside  from whether                                                                    
the  women were  eligible  for Medicaid  or  other types  of                                                                    
coverage,  dealing  with the  transition  and  the level  of                                                                    
paperwork two months after birth  could be overwhelming. The                                                                    
data showed  gaps in  coverage between the  60 day  mark and                                                                    
continued  Medicaid  or  other  types  of  health  insurance                                                                    
coverage.  The   legislation  helped  reduce  the   gaps  in                                                                    
coverage. She delineated that there  had been an association                                                                    
with children having more well  check visits when the mother                                                                    
had health insurance  because she was not  always aware that                                                                    
her child  had continued coverage. The  extension benefitted                                                                    
both the mother and child.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
2:55:30 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Coulombe   asked  if  the   baby's  coverage                                                                    
stopped at  60 days.  Ms. Ricci  answered that  the infant's                                                                    
coverage typically lasted one year  and after the time there                                                                    
was  a standard  review process  for continued  eligibility.                                                                    
Representative Coulombe  ascertained that the  children were                                                                    
covered for  an entire year and  if the mother was  also, it                                                                    
would make  the difference in outcomes.  Ms. Ricci responded                                                                    
in the affirmative. She added  that aligning the childs  and                                                                    
mothers  coverage  made it more  likely for both  parties to                                                                    
get  the  coverage   they  needed.  Representative  Coulombe                                                                    
requested  references to  the data  included in  the slides.                                                                    
Ms. Ricci agreed to provide the information.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
2:57:15 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative   Tomaszewski   thanked  the   governor   for                                                                    
bringing the information to  the legislature's attention. He                                                                    
asked if  there was  a location  in the  department's budget                                                                    
that  the $2.6  million  could be  decremented  to make  the                                                                    
proposal cost  neutral. Ms. Ricci replied  that the Medicaid                                                                    
budget  was very  large, and  the department  was constantly                                                                    
seeking ways to save money.  However, there was an increased                                                                    
need  due to  impacts of  inflation, increased  costs across                                                                    
the board, and increased  utilization by Medicaid enrollees.                                                                    
Some  people  had  deferred care  during  the  pandemic  and                                                                    
currently needed  more acute care  and chronic  diseases had                                                                    
increased.   The  department   believed   the  fiscal   note                                                                    
associated with  the bill would  ensure that  the department                                                                    
had  sufficient  funds  to provide  the  extended  coverage.                                                                    
Representative Tomaszewski  remarked that  at the  same time                                                                    
they  would be  reconsidering  Medicaid  eligibility and  he                                                                    
thought that  would result in decreased  costs. He suggested                                                                    
that  there  was  a  location  in the  budget  to  keep  the                                                                    
proposal cost neutral.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
2:59:40 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Galvin  looked  at  slide  4  and  the  17.4                                                                    
percent mortality  rate in the US.  She asked if it  was per                                                                    
100,000  population.  Ms.  Morisse  answered  affirmatively.                                                                    
Representative Galvin  cited the data  on slide 6  and asked                                                                    
if  the was  based on  per 100,000  population as  well. Ms.                                                                    
Morisse answered  in the affirmative.  Representative Galvin                                                                    
asked her  to confirm  some of  the data  on the  slide. Ms.                                                                    
Morisse  wanted to  reexamine the  national  data and  would                                                                    
follow up.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Dr.  Zink  offered to  follow  up  with the  information  in                                                                    
writing.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Galvin  referenced  slide 11  that  included                                                                    
data  on cost  savings. She  guessed that  beyond the  first                                                                    
year of  the program  that would  likely increase  costs, in                                                                    
the  long run  the upstream  measures would  ultimately save                                                                    
money.  Ms.   Ricci  agreed  with   Representative  Galvins                                                                     
statement. She  elaborated that savings were  anticipated in                                                                    
the   long  term   but  immediately   after  the   expansion                                                                    
implementation  claims  would  begin  to come  in  and  need                                                                    
payment.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
3:03:42 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative Galvin  asked if the department  had done any                                                                    
other  research on  savings related  to  children and  fewer                                                                    
costs in future years. Ms. Ricci deferred to Dr. Zink.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Dr. Zink answered she would provide additional information.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair   Foster    thanked   the   department    for   the                                                                    
introduction.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
HB  59  was   HEARD  and  HELD  in   committee  for  further                                                                    
consideration.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Foster reviewed  the  schedule  for the  following                                                                    
day.                                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                

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HB 58 LFD Response to Q Out Year FN Costs 041323.pdf HFIN 4/12/2023 1:30:00 PM
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